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Diverse, islam — Drokles on April 16, 2008 at 5:48 pm

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Den engelske professor i psykologi Richard Lynn har studeret intelligens blandt forskellige etniske grupper og sammenfattede i en af sine bøger data fra 620 forskellige IQ-undersøgelser. Hans resultat er, at europæere har en IQ på cirka 100, selvom den kan svinge fra 90 i Kroatien til 107 i Tyskland.

Asiater har i gennemsnit en IQ på 105. De oprindelige befolkninger i Nord- og Sydamerika ligger på 85-90, og afrikanere har i gennemsnit en IQ på 70-90.

»Der er jo forskel på, hvilke egenskaber man skal bruge på at overleve de forskellige steder i verden. Et eksempel på hvordan ens levevilkår påvirker os er, at man i Vestafrika er kendt for at udvikle dygtige sprintere, mens østafrikanere er kendt for at være fantastiske maratonløbere. I de kolde klimaer i Europa har det i højere grad været intellektuelle egenskaber, som har gjort, at man har overlevet. Man skulle være klog, for at overleve i kulden« forklarer den kontroversielle intelligensforsker Helmut Nyborg.

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»Undersøgelser foretaget blandt etniske grupper i USA viser, at asiater generelt har en højere IQ, og afrikanere klarer sig dårligere i IQ tests. Det er blevet tolket som, at selvom der er en vis miljømæssig påvirkning, kan vi ikke overvinde den genetiske evidens,« siger Tom Teasdale.

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følge ‘Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence’ skyldes den høje intelligens blandt jøder af europæisk afstamning, at da jøderne flyttede til Europa for knap tusind år siden, fik de forbud imod at dyrke jord og andet normalt arbejde. I stedet blev de tvunget til at leve af arbejde, hvor man skal bruge hovedet: Forretninger, mellemleder-stillinger og at være skriftkloge. De jøder, som klarede sig bedst i den slags arbejde, altså de klogeste, var dem, som overlevede og fik flest børn. 

Der er altså en kulturel påvirkning af den biologiske intelligens. Hvis man i en kultur i generationer dyrker tanken vil det have en positiv afsmitning på den generelle intelligens, hvorimod hvis man dyrker underkastelsen af den frie vilje…. Her er først den muslimske andel af Nobelpriser

Literature
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat

Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

Og så den jødiske


Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Chemistry:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
2004 - Aaron Ciechanover
2004 - Avram Hershko

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 -! Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

Physics:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl

Jamen dog.

12 Kommentarer »

  1. Hmm… fat i regneprogrammet:

    Hvis 1.300.000.000 muslimer har 7 Nobelpriser og
    13.000.000 jøder har 129 Nobelpriser

    skulle muslimerne have 100 x 129 = 12.900 Nobelpriser.

    Hvis de altså var lige så intelligente som jøderne. De har 7. Og den ene er ovenikøbet en pædofil, homoseksuel massemorder. Yndigt….

    Comment by Skjoldungen — April 16, 2008 @ 8:15 pm
  2. Arhhh, de Nobelpriser igen. Jeg har jo forklaret, at det er unfair at sammenligne muslimer med vesterlændinge.

    Man skal selvfølgelig sammenligne med indere og kinesere, da indisk, kinesisk og muslimske samfund socioøkonomisk ligner hinanden mest.

    I øvrigt interessant:

    “Hans resultat er, at europæere har en IQ på cirka 100, selvom den kan svinge fra 90 i Kroatien til 107 i Tyskland.”

    Kan det mon være med til at forklare forskellen på tyskernes pacifisme og balkanboernes hang til vold og etniske udrensninger?

    Comment by Raapil — April 16, 2008 @ 9:07 pm
  3. ““Hans resultat er, at europæere har en IQ på cirka 100, selvom den kan svinge fra 90 i Kroatien til 107 i Tyskland.”

    Kan det mon være med til at forklare forskellen på tyskernes pacifisme og balkanboernes hang til vold og etniske udrensninger? ”

    Ha, ha. Næppe, da tyskernes IQ nok ikke er steget siden de selv satte verden i brand for 90 og 60 år siden. Men hvis det kunne havde man til gengæld endegyldigt placeret skylden for konflikten mellem israelere og palæstinensere og arabere i det hele taget.

    Men så er det at dit indlæg antager surreelle former.

    “Én interessant forskel er der dog: Fire ud af otte ‘muslimske’ Nobelpriser er Fredspriser. Og det fortæller måske et og andet om, at indere og kinesere har været heldige med at bosætte sig i mere fredelige og mindre omtvistede dele af verden end muslimerne har. Fredspriser får man, hvor krigen hersker.”

    Mener du virkelig at det er selve geografien der gør konflikterne, så at man bliver mere voldelig af at køre gennem Lumsås frem for Svaneke?

    For ikke at tale om

    “….fordi det ikke er religion eller autoritært styre i sig selv, der holder det videnskabelige fremskridt tilbage.”

    Men religion sætter jo netop rammerne for menneskets opfattelse af verden, både kunst, videnskab og økonomi. Raapil for satan, du er lærer, det er da noget du ved eller er alt blevet ligegyldigt? Betyder det ikke noget, hvilke værdier du præger dine børn med (både dine elever og dine eventuelle egne børn)?

    Comment by Drokles — April 16, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
  4. Denne diskussion er helt afsporet. Den store forskel i antallet af jødiske og muslimske Nobelpriser afslører med al ønskelig klarhed, at Nobelprisen udstedes af en dybt racistisk institution; ligesom forekelle nmellem mandlige og kvindelige modtagere også afslører, at der er tale om en sexistisk organisation.
    I den bedste af alle verdner, dvs. i den politisk korrekte verden, vil mænd og kvinder selvfølgeligt modtage lige mange Nobelpriser, ligesom 5-årige vil modtage ligeså mange Nobelpriser som de 50-årige. Og ikke mindst vil muslimerne modtage et antal Nobelpriser, der modsvarer deres befolkningsantal.
    Den slags vil man have love og kommisioner til at sørge for. Husk på at sand ligestilling ikke har noget med præstationer at gøre!

    Comment by Spinoza — April 17, 2008 @ 1:53 am
  5. Råpil, jeg må skuffe dig. Du har ikke forklaret nogetsomhelst, når vi taler Islam. Du har fremført dit synspunkt, men vi er ikke dine elever, som skal have lært, hvad et sådant synspunkt går ud på.
    Du skriver på din blog:

    “Konklusionen er både tåbelig og fornuftig: Tåbelig, fordi det ikke er religion eller autoritært styre i sig selv, der holder det videnskabelige fremskridt tilbage. Nej, det er mangel på udvikling - økonomisk udvikling, og den mangel kan ikke tilskrives enkeltstående faktorer som religion.”

    Dit synspunktet er kun teoretisk sandt og kun i vesterlandsk forstand, men det savner både sit bevis og sit gundlag i praksis, når vi står over for fundamentalistisk Islam. Videnskab kommer i det hele taget til kort over for fundamentalistisk Islam. Derfor kommer dit synspunkt også til kort. Du kommer ingen vegne med dit synspunkt før Islam giver slip, som den katolske kirke blev tvunget til det. Er der udsigt til, at Islam giver slip?

    Der er i høj grad belæg for at mene, at blomstrende samfund mistede deres drive og sank ned i uvidenhed og fattigdom af en eneste enkeltstående grund - Islam. Politisk Islam har notorisk svært ved at forlige sig med vesteuropæiske tankegange som din, fordi sådanne tanker kan forrykke den religiøse og politiske balance i landet. Blandt andet derfor har kreationismen Islams bevågenhed. Videnskabelig pseudo med religiøse undertoner bliver budt velkommen.
    Min modpåstand er, at Islam alene sagtens er i stand til at bevare status quo i sit område og forhindre reel udvikling og videnskabelig blomstring. I den forstand er Islam en langt hårdere nød at knække end Hitlers Nationalsocialisme og det tredje rige for den sags skyld var, fordi religionen er så velintegreret i folks hoveder.
    Manglen på udvikling kan derfor netop skyldes fundamentalistisk Islams katastrofale betydning.

    Hvad angår Kinas effektive politiske system synes landets notoriske økonomiske udvikling heller ikke at understøtte Råpils synspunkt det mindste. Kinas kommunistparti er indtil videre lige så effektivt en undertrykker som Islam.

    Både enkeltstående religioner som Islam og enkeltstående ideologier som Kinas kommunistparti, synes at have let ved at modbevise Råpis vesterlandske tese, for begge undertrykker fortsat skabende arbejde i Nobelpris-klasse.

    Comment by Emeritus — April 18, 2008 @ 12:02 am
  6. To slåfejl: næstsidste afsnit, sidste linje: læs ‘effektiv’
    sidste afsnit, anden linje: læs ‘Råpils

    Comment by Emeritus — April 18, 2008 @ 12:11 am
  7. Kære Råpil.
    Hvis du ikke har yderligere kvalificerede indlæg at bidrage med om dette emne, kunne temaet måske stadig nå at komme tilbage på sporet.

    Comment by Emeritus — April 18, 2008 @ 8:19 am
  8. Mon ikke denne opdagelse kan fortjene en Nobel-pris?

    Se sidste del af videoen.
    ”I varme lande – så som Yemen er kviner kønsmodne i 8 års alderen -
    I koldere egne – f.eks. Rusland og Scandinavien er kvinder først kønsmodne som 22 årige.”
    http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1725wmv&ak=null

    Den påståede klimaændring vil måske bevirke, at danske kvinder bliver kønsmodne fra 20-21 års alderen – hvem ved??

    Comment by Als — April 19, 2008 @ 11:39 am
  9. Hæ, hæ. Endelig tilbage på sporet.

    Comment by Emeritus — April 22, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
  10. Hvis det er rigtigt, så havde Adolf Hitler jo ret !! - Jøden er en race ! Og ikke en religion !

    Comment by Niels — March 28, 2010 @ 1:16 am
  11. Eftersom vi i dag ser “rettroende” islamister slå hårdt ned på intellektuel udvikling.
    Slå kvinder ihjel. så kan vel ingen hævde at det er derfra som der kommer fremtidige nobelpriser indenfor videnskabelige grene.
    Fredspriser måske - men det behøver jo ikke ha noget med intellekt at gøre - det er vel snarere krigstræthed - eller måske !!! - hvis i ikke overgir jer til islam så slår vi jer ihjel - det gjorde vi så - seee hvorfredeligt der blev !
    NOT

    Comment by Villy Pedersen — October 14, 2012 @ 6:49 pm
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