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Comments on: Lidt causeri fra weekenden http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091 Monoculture; one law equal for all citizens of the nation state Thu, 28 Mar 2024 22:38:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Drokles http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091&cpage=1#comment-59076 Drokles Thu, 07 Apr 2011 01:19:26 +0000 http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091#comment-59076 Og en enkelt kommentar endnu Jens Hansen, som et svar på dit spørgsmål om, hvad man gør med resterende koraner nu man ikke må sende dem på Vestforbrændingen. En artikelserie fra The Atlantic beskriver et fund af gamle koranskrifter i en moske og forklarer: "In some pious Muslim circles it is held that worn-out or damaged copies of the Koran must be removed from circulation; hence the idea of a grave, which both preserves the sanctity of the texts being laid to rest and ensures that only complete and unblemished editions of the scripture will be read." http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99jan/koran.htm Og en enkelt kommentar endnu Jens Hansen, som et svar på dit spørgsmål om, hvad man gør med resterende koraner nu man ikke må sende dem på Vestforbrændingen. En artikelserie fra The Atlantic beskriver et fund af gamle koranskrifter i en moske og forklarer:

“In some pious Muslim circles it is held that worn-out or damaged copies of the Koran must be removed from circulation; hence the idea of a grave, which both preserves the sanctity of the texts being laid to rest and ensures that only complete and unblemished editions of the scripture will be read.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99jan/koran.htm

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By: Drokles http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091&cpage=1#comment-59075 Drokles Thu, 07 Apr 2011 00:47:23 +0000 http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091#comment-59075 Lige en ekstra kommentar Jens Hansen om Luxembergs bog. Jeg har altid været skeptisk overfor åbenbaringer eller nyopdagede og enkle forklaringer på gamle problemer og derfor ville jeg lige læse lidt om Luxembergs påstande. At koranen i store passager er ulæselig eller uforståelig er ganske velkendt og jagten på en nøgle der kan forklare de dunkle passager har stået på længe, så længe at der næppe kommer en løsning ud af det blå. Jeg fandt bl.a. en rimelig grundig gennemgang og anmeldelse af hans bog her: http://www.livius.org/opinion/Luxenberg.htm Og her bringes der disse indvendinger mod Luxembergs arbejde til torvs: " <blockquote>François de Blois points to a couple of grammatical mistakes in Luxenberg's book and calls him a 'dilettante'.[18] His grasp of Syriac is limited to knowlegde of dictionaries and in his Arabic he makes mistakes that are typical for the Arabs of the Middle East. The latter is corroborated by the professor of Islam at Leyden University Hans Jansen: Luxenberg is not a professor at a German university, he is a Lebanese Christian. This would explain Luxenberg's 'Christian agenda': Christians from the Middle East have been involved in harsh religious debates with Muslims for centuries. Angelika Neuwirth, a scholar of Islam from Berlin, dedicates a few words to Luxenberg in an article and mainly emphasises the lack of interdisciplinary research. He does indeed raise many questions that could be answered by other disciplines, but its not entirely fair to blame this on Luxenberg. Her remark that his conclusions are not fully justified by the results of his research is much more important. A word in Arabic looking similar to a Syriac word is to be expected, since the two are closely related languages. The use of loanwords also doesn't automatically mean that the unchanged and full meaning is borrowed as well. If qur'an was indeed derived from Syriac Qeryana 'lectionary', that still does not mean that the Qur'an actually was a Christian lectionary, at most it had a comparable function: text to be recited.[19]</blockquote> " Men alligevel forkastes bogen ikke fordi den er meget grundig og angriber koranen fra en helt relevant vinkel. Lige en ekstra kommentar Jens Hansen om Luxembergs bog. Jeg har altid været skeptisk overfor åbenbaringer eller nyopdagede og enkle forklaringer på gamle problemer og derfor ville jeg lige læse lidt om Luxembergs påstande. At koranen i store passager er ulæselig eller uforståelig er ganske velkendt og jagten på en nøgle der kan forklare de dunkle passager har stået på længe, så længe at der næppe kommer en løsning ud af det blå. Jeg fandt bl.a. en rimelig grundig gennemgang og anmeldelse af hans bog her:

http://www.livius.org/opinion/Luxenberg.htm

Og her bringes der disse indvendinger mod Luxembergs arbejde til torvs:

François de Blois points to a couple of grammatical mistakes in Luxenberg’s book and calls him a ‘dilettante’.[18] His grasp of Syriac is limited to knowlegde of dictionaries and in his Arabic he makes mistakes that are typical for the Arabs of the Middle East. The latter is corroborated by the professor of Islam at Leyden University Hans Jansen: Luxenberg is not a professor at a German university, he is a Lebanese Christian. This would explain Luxenberg’s ‘Christian agenda’: Christians from the Middle East have been involved in harsh religious debates with Muslims for centuries.

Angelika Neuwirth, a scholar of Islam from Berlin, dedicates a few words to Luxenberg in an article and mainly emphasises the lack of interdisciplinary research. He does indeed raise many questions that could be answered by other disciplines, but its not entirely fair to blame this on Luxenberg. Her remark that his conclusions are not fully justified by the results of his research is much more important. A word in Arabic looking similar to a Syriac word is to be expected, since the two are closely related languages. The use of loanwords also doesn’t automatically mean that the unchanged and full meaning is borrowed as well. If qur’an was indeed derived from Syriac Qeryana ‘lectionary’, that still does not mean that the Qur’an actually was a Christian lectionary, at most it had a comparable function: text to be recited.[19]

Men alligevel forkastes bogen ikke fordi den er meget grundig og angriber koranen fra en helt relevant vinkel.

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By: Drokles http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091&cpage=1#comment-59073 Drokles Wed, 06 Apr 2011 00:25:23 +0000 http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091#comment-59073 Tjah Jens Hansen vi må vente på en fatwa til at svare på det spørgsmål. Og tak for artiklen den var meget interessant. Tjah Jens Hansen vi må vente på en fatwa til at svare på det spørgsmål.

Og tak for artiklen den var meget interessant.

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By: Jens Hansen http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091&cpage=1#comment-59069 Jens Hansen Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:40:23 +0000 http://monokultur.dk/?p=6091#comment-59069 Men hvad er så den rigtige måde at skille sig af med en koran på, hvad gør et forlag med et restoplag som ikke kan sælges og den ikke må køres på forbrændingen, må den makuleres f. eks.? Og hvor maget ballade kan der ikke komme ud af hvis forskning viser at koranen oprindelig stammer fra en kristen menighed, og at Muhamed aldrig har eksisteret som andet end en sproglig misforståelse? http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/413867:Kronik--KRONIK--Koranen-begyndte-som-en-kristen-bog?all=1 Men hvad er så den rigtige måde at skille sig af med en koran på, hvad gør et forlag med et restoplag som ikke kan sælges og den ikke må køres på forbrændingen, må den makuleres f. eks.?

Og hvor maget ballade kan der ikke komme ud af hvis forskning viser at koranen oprindelig stammer fra en kristen menighed, og at Muhamed aldrig har eksisteret som andet end en sproglig misforståelse?
http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/artikel/413867:Kronik–KRONIK–Koranen-begyndte-som-en-kristen-bog?all=1

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